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kierthos ([personal profile] kierthos) wrote2009-04-01 10:06 am
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[WoW] Continued slapping of devs

So, a few days ago, I mentioned that the World of Warcraft "official response" (aka "fuck you") to Engineering had been posted. Since then, that thread has had over 2300 replies. Over 85,000 views. (That's replies and views on the WoW forums. I'm not going to pretend my LJ is anywhere near that popular.)

Of course, there's only been the one Blue response on the thread, which started the whole "bitchslap a dev" feeling... and Blizzard's "April Fools" joke? It's mount customizations (along the lines of barbershops for characters.) Between that and the "Nerf Engineering" achievement (yes, it's an actual achievement. It has to to with beating a Ulduar boss under certain conditions.), Engineers are just feeling the love.

*sigh*

I shouldn't let a game irk me this much.

[identity profile] kierthos.livejournal.com 2009-04-02 09:30 pm (UTC)(link)
The leatherworking bonus is the fur linings.

JC still has a daily quest. If nothing else, they can use it to buy uncut Dragon's Eye gems, which they can then turn around and sell for around 100 gold. Oh, and some of the recipes cost 2 tokens. Some cost 3, 4, or 6. The meta cuts cost 5. And they're not required to get them all. And there is a random world drop that they can turn in to get extra tokens.

Cooking still provides more of a bonus then engineering gets, regardless of the fact that it's a secondary profession.

Only way to get people to fish? Um, have you never seen people fishing in the Dalaran fountain? They're mostly after those damn coins.

And engineering doesn't fit with the idea of research?

And the problem with restricting items that you can learn based off of class (which doesn't affect any other profession), is that you have bone-headed fucking moves on Blizzard's part which lead to the fact that it took them 2.5 months to fix the "oops" that lead to druids not being able to make the DPS engineering helm.

Oh, and Bornakk pretty much admitted that despite much of the instance being tech related, they pretty much forgot that Engineering existed. Yeah, the first boss is only a goddamned mechanical vehicle, there's a giant robot boss, and another boss where the end fight is fucking Voltron, but apparently, Alzheimer's is goddamned rampant over there, or they're doing massive amounts of crack.

[identity profile] egearman.livejournal.com 2009-04-03 05:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Ok. On the fur lining, yes, those give a nice bonus, but the spell power one can be nearly matched by enchanting. The resistance ones might as well not be there, considering what you have to do in order to actually resist spells.

For the JC tokens, you are still talking weeks just to get the cuts you really want and then there's the desire to just keep getting them, until you burn out.

Fishing is uber boring. And the people fishing in fountains are, as you said, trying only to get the coins to get the achievement.

With the way Blizz has set up the research, no engineering doesn't fit. They are using minimal mats to 'experiment' and maybe get something new. To do the same for engineering, while nice, doesn't quite fit. You would actually need to have several smaller devices that you would 'experiment' with (i.e. nail to each other) and see if you get a new combination. Honestly, I would prefer to see something similar to the old EQ crafting in that regards. But items X, Y and Z in a box and see if you can make something.

For the helmets being restricted by class, Blizz hasn't really figured out that sometimes people downgrade armor based on stats. A healadin doesn't need to be encased in plate if they have mail that helps more for their healing. A hunter can be just as much of a badass in leather as in mail.

As for forgetting that engineering existed, yeah, no excuse for that.