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kierthos ([personal profile] kierthos) wrote2008-11-21 10:30 am
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All quest designers will be beaten

Okay, I should be used to the basic lack of common sense in the World of Warcraft quests.

I mean, for one, how do they know I've killed a dozen {insert mob name here}? I'm a rogue. I'm patently dishonest. Like I can't lie? Okay, okay, it's a game. I'll let that one lie.

But come on.... there is some serious stupidity with some of these quests. (And this is going above and beyond the fascination that the quest designers have with poop.) There is a quest that basically goes "Hey, we have refugees pouring in and we can't feed them. Go get this particular food."

Me: Hey, big walrus chief dude. I got like 4 stacks of fish, a bunch of meat pies, some chicken... I can just give you all that.
Big Walrus Chief Dude: No, you don't understand. We need this particular food.
Me: Why? I mean, if you're starving, fuck it, I can get you food.
BWCD: Just do the damn quest, okay?

And then, the mobs you get the quest 'meat' from also drop other types of meat, but hey, it's not interchangeable. Why? Who the fuck knows.

And the next quest in the chain... BWCD needs weapons. Again, I could set him up. But no.... it has to be crafted from the finest chimera horn.

Me: Look, we can set you up a forge, get some cobalt swords produced here, get you armed in fucking style.
BWCD: You just don't get the whole quest mentality do you? Go forth, and mindlessly repeat rote tasks.
Me: *mutters* I swear, I find some giants who want walrus skin coats, you fuckers are toast.

[identity profile] cuddlycthulhu.livejournal.com 2008-11-21 03:42 pm (UTC)(link)
The fascination with poop is because they are geeks. Pure and simple.

I wish you could do that but then it'd be too easy; just wander over to the butcher NPC or whatever and buy the fucker out.

[identity profile] kierthos.livejournal.com 2008-11-21 03:55 pm (UTC)(link)
*shrug* Make it a stack or two of one of a number of different foods created through the cooking profession.

What really pissed me off while doing the quest was that there was another type of mob (worgs) that would randomly attack the mobs that dropped the quest food. And if the worgs got the killing blow (and apparently, they have some special "insta-gibb the quest mob" attack), you couldn't loot the quest mob. And therefore, no chance at the quest food.

Annoying as fuck.

[identity profile] egearman.livejournal.com 2008-11-21 03:56 pm (UTC)(link)
So kill the worgs too. And then skin them. And skin the meat-dropping mob. And the mobs you didn't kill, but the people near you did.

And get skinning to 450 before you hit 71, but still have leatherworking at 420 thanks to rare drops being needed.

[identity profile] kierthos.livejournal.com 2008-11-21 04:08 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm seriously thinking about switching back to Skinning/Leatherworking. Or maybe keeping Mining and going to Jewelcrafting.

Engineering is still being shit on. (Unintended extension of Blizzard's fascination with poop.)
Edited 2008-11-21 16:08 (UTC)

[identity profile] cuddlycthulhu.livejournal.com 2008-11-21 04:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Only problem with going to JC (or any other profession) is you have to go back and run around all the fucking newb areas getting your gathering (or building up raw materials) skill.

Spent an entire weekend getting my DKs herbalism and inscription up to par with where it would need to be for Outlands.

[identity profile] egearman.livejournal.com 2008-11-21 04:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, but if you have a fast mount, it's not that bad. With mining already high, it's get about 2-3 stacks of copper, maybe 1-2 tin and move on. And there isn't a lot of competition for the nodes right now, since everyone is doing herbalism/inscriptions.

[identity profile] cuddlycthulhu.livejournal.com 2008-11-21 04:35 pm (UTC)(link)
I found that doing Herbalism to 125 in Tirisfal and Shadowpine was fucking easy but it was moving up the next level that was difficult. Same with moving from stuff like fade leaf and khadgar's whisper in Duskwallow to the 250+ herbs like gromsblood, golden sansam etc.

I think that mining would be easier because you only need to run along places where the nodes would be (i.e. mountains) rather than running zig-zag back and forth across the map.

[identity profile] kierthos.livejournal.com 2008-11-22 03:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Nah. I already have mining on the same character, so while I could go around and mine copper and tin and what-the-fuck-ever, I'd probably just buy a few stacks off of the AH, and powerlevel my Jewelcrafting skill.

I could probably get to 350+ for maybe 1000 gold in materials.

[identity profile] egearman.livejournal.com 2008-11-21 04:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, skinning will be easy to level when hitting low level areas. But you will want at least one empty bag, since you won't be able to skin unless you loot everything off of the corpse (and they tend to carry a lot of junk). Leatherworking will take longer, since the number of mats required for skill dings.

Buying mats will help some, but you will be running around trying to get more leather all the bloody time.

[identity profile] cuddlycthulhu.livejournal.com 2008-11-21 04:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, that is kind of annoying. No chance you could taunt (or stab the fuck out of, in the case of you being a rogue) after you'dtagged the quest mob?

[identity profile] egearman.livejournal.com 2008-11-21 04:33 pm (UTC)(link)
A number of the 'other things will attack them' mobs require getting the killing blow. So you'd have to taunt the other guy off of the quest mob or otherwise remove them from the fight somehow.

[identity profile] cuddlycthulhu.livejournal.com 2008-11-21 04:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Ah, yeah, that'd be annoying. Usually it's not an issue for me on my warrior because I'm spamming cleave and after one or two hits I've got aggro from anything around me.

[identity profile] kierthos.livejournal.com 2008-11-21 03:56 pm (UTC)(link)
And I know quite a few geeks. None of them are fascinated with poop.

I am a geek. I am not fascinated with poop.

If there were quests that involved titties, then I could understand it.

But no, we get "go dig through the animal poop until you find what I'm looking for".

[identity profile] egearman.livejournal.com 2008-11-21 03:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, the whole "one of those pigs ate my keys" type of thing is disgusting. But at least now, the poop glows!

[identity profile] kierthos.livejournal.com 2008-11-21 04:07 pm (UTC)(link)
I DO NOT WANT TO KNOW WHY THE POOP GLOWS!

AAAAAHHHH IT'S EATING THROUGH MY GLOVES!!!! GET IT OFF!!! GET IT OFF!!!!!

[identity profile] egearman.livejournal.com 2008-11-21 04:32 pm (UTC)(link)
And then your hair falls out.

[identity profile] kierthos.livejournal.com 2008-11-21 04:37 pm (UTC)(link)
If the goblin-run barbershop can shape Tauren and Draenei horns, they can grow my hair back.

Although I'm mildly irked that mohawk isn't an option for female human characters.

[identity profile] egearman.livejournal.com 2008-11-21 04:38 pm (UTC)(link)
You still need to create a horde toon on AD, so you can join the guild I'm in. Make a death knight so you don't have to level as much.

[identity profile] kierthos.livejournal.com 2008-11-22 03:44 pm (UTC)(link)
*looks shifty eyed*

Wut Horde Deth Knit?