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Goddamn ignorant shitfuckers

"pretty good" evidence? Is this right on par with the WMDs that BushCo "knew" Iraq had?

"I think there's some serial numbers, there may be some markings on some of the projectile fragments that we found," that point to Iran.

I think Gates is made out of candy, and I should be allowed to hoist him up like a pinata and hit him with a stick. It's just as likely.

Yeah, Iran's leadership isn't registering much lower on the ignorant shitfucker scale, but come on....

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Yea, because there's no LOGICAL reason why the Iranians whould be interfereing in Iraq. They've never bothered with Iraq before??

I mean, Iraq HAD nuclear facilities when the Israelis bombed their breeder plant 2 decades ago, but once we go in, no, there's nothing. And now suddenly Iran has plans and parts for nukes. No, there's no relationship between those two things. No.

I don't know anything about General Gates, but I'd put $50 on him makin' you look like a beat monkey.

Nothin' personal, just sayin'...

I'm not saying Iran doesn't want to interfere with Iraq. I'm not saying Iran isn't interfering with Iraq. They probably are. And Iran's leadership almost certainly wants the daily double of making the U.S. look bad and keep Iraq weak and off center.

But the same administration that brought us "Saddam is working with Al-Qaeda, honest!" and "Iraq has WMDs! No, really!" (not had, has. That was Bush's claim. That, at the time, they possessed WMDs.) is now bringing us "We want to go to war with Iran really badly, and here's the dodgy evidence."

If Gates and company only think that there's some markings, or aren't sure if there are some serial numbers on these bits and pieces, they shouldn't have said anything. Verify first, report second. They're not required to have a press conference for every rumor.

Wait, so... just because he's involved with the Bush administration, he can't say in public what everyone has already deduced as highly probable??

Some quick questions, though, just to point out the bias in your points. After we pushed the Taliban out of Afganistan's governance, where did the top Al-Qaeda leaders go? When was Al-Zawahiri's first video message from Iraq? Iran doesn't have any nukes NOW, so, why is everyone concerned about it?? Your proposition is that the WMD issue hinged on whether Saddam had his right hand on a "Little Boy" the day we invaded, so unless you actually have a bomb, there should be no reason to be concerned. Nukes are only ONE form of WMD, so did you ever see the chemical analisys the Marines did of the Tigris river when they tried to cross it during the original invasion of Bagdad? I guess all those fish got tired of life at the same time and just turned belly up all at once because the flying saucers were coming?

I mean, YES it is a problem that there are still people who just swallow everything Bush says to them. But it's more common to find people who swallow everything the New York Times reports without any reasonable doubt.

There are MORE than two sides of political thought. Most people brainlessly root for their "side" without any consideration for the completely DUMBASSED things their side stands for.

And I'm terribly sorry, I've been watching your LJ for a while, looked at all your webcomics. You are not an independant, you're pulling for one of those idiotic sides.

Take hope, though, there IS a reasonable middle ground. We're not so popular because we don't have a name, organization, or "Tag" yet.

Again, it's pretty obvious that there are Iranians in Iraq who are helping to make a mess of things over there. Just like there are Syrians, Lebanese, Palestinians, Jordanians, and probably several other nationalities over there trying to blow up, shoot, or torture anyone not on their respective sides.

And no, my proposition on WMDs in Iraq did not rely on Saddam being able to put his finger on the button. While huge quantities of WMDs were destroyed in the '90s, by the time of the invasion in 2003, the inspections run by the U.N. hadn't found any ongoing programs and no stockpiles of WMDs have been found. What they have found are the remnents of the stuff that had been around in '91 (which is what made all the fish do the backstroke).

Oh, you are not SERIOUSLY taking Hans Blix's report seriously are you!? He took more bribes from Saddam under one of the most shamefully corrupt UN leadership since the League of Nations.

I mean, for God's sake the man called and said "Hey, coming to Tikrit in a week to checks for nukes. Make sure there are plenty of booze and hookers waiting...".

And the fishkill was caused by numerous nerve agents found in the Tigris, in concentrations in excess of 5%. It was a river, river water moves, so saying chemicals dumped in 1991 killed fish in 2003 is just braindead.

Is it so difficult to accept that BOTH sides are lying?? Yes, Bush lies and in most circumstances can be characterized as a out-of-touch scoundrel. See? That was easy. Rumsfeld was a MacCarthyite, and the Vice president is most likely a direct descendant of the Devil himself. Now look the other way, and notice that all modren media is biased and agenda driven (Fox, CNN, Al-Jazeera, all of them), Hillary Clinton voted for the war and has made no legislative moves to pull the troops out, despite her "tough talk", and John Edwards just clear-cut 100+ acres of virgin timberland just to build his multi-million dollar mansion, Al Gore is most likely a raging alcoholic at this point, and Kerry was a useless pussy.

Hey, how did that minimum wage hike work out for you? Oh wait, you don't make minimum wage, so it didn't help you at all. I wonder what useless thing the now Democrat controlled congress will do next? Hopefully, they'll do like the Republican controlled congress and do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.

One thing to remember:

Every. Intelligence agency. IN THE WORLD. "Knew" Iraq had WMDs. We were the only ones with the balls to do anything about it.

EVERYONE thought they had WMDs. People just forget that now because it turns out they only had research that put them a year away from nukes.

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